Even if born in Hawaii, that isn't the end of the issue. He also has to
prove that he didn't LOSE his citizenship when he was NATURALIZED to
Indonesia so he could attend public school there. Regaining citizenship
after being a citizen of another country means he's a naturalized citizen
NOT eligible for the office.

In article <rdv075tsfp28f3bafg3sqr7eu74rj93h4l@4ax.com>,
gov.shill@gmail.com says...
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:37:29 -0400, BDK <TopShill@sanity.com> wrote:


My ex GF (Who is probably reading this)

Hi BDK's ex GF!



She says hi back! I wish she would delurk, but she's resistant to my
attempts to get her to post to the kooks directly.

"Dank 110100100" <dank420@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
news:b84e81dc-b594-4166-9256-8f6c125a5a98@l5g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 27, 6:09 pm, "D. Stussy" <s...@bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote:
Even if born in Hawaii, that isn't the end of the issue. He also has to
prove that he didn't LOSE his citizenship when he was NATURALIZED to
Indonesia so he could attend public school there. Regaining citizenship
after being a citizen of another country means he's a naturalized citizen
NOT eligible for the office.

That angle is unlikely to succeed, because U.S. law makes it almost
impossible to renounce one's U.S. citizenship. It could also be
argued that as a minor he could not consent to renounce his U.S.
citizenship.
-----
His step-father renounced it for him.

Indonesian law FORBIDS dual-citizenship and requires Indonesian citizenship
in order to attend public school. Obama, under his alias "Barry Soetero,"
did attend Indonesian public school. Therefore, by operation of law, his
ONLY citizenship at the time is that of Indonesia. QED.

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:51:45 -0700, "D. Stussy"
spam@bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote:

"Dank 110100100" <dank420@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
news:b84e81dc-b594-4166-9256-8f6c125a5a98@l5g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 27, 6:09 pm, "D. Stussy" <s...@bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote:
Even if born in Hawaii, that isn't the end of the issue. He also has to
prove that he didn't LOSE his citizenship when he was NATURALIZED to
Indonesia so he could attend public school there. Regaining citizenship
after being a citizen of another country means he's a naturalized citizen
NOT eligible for the office.

That angle is unlikely to succeed, because U.S. law makes it almost
impossible to renounce one's U.S. citizenship. It could also be
argued that as a minor he could not consent to renounce his U.S.
citizenship.
-----
His step-father renounced it for him.

Indonesian law FORBIDS dual-citizenship and requires Indonesian citizenship
in order to attend public school. Obama, under his alias "Barry Soetero,"
did attend Indonesian public school. Therefore, by operation of law, his
ONLY citizenship at the time is that of Indonesia. QED.

If that is, you assume that Indonesian law trumps American law inside
the United States. Otherwise, not so much.

D. Stussy wrote:
"Dank 110100100" <dank420@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
news:b84e81dc-b594-4166-9256-8f6c125a5a98@l5g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 27, 6:09 pm, "D. Stussy" <s...@bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote:
Even if born in Hawaii, that isn't the end of the issue. He also has
to prove that he didn't LOSE his citizenship when he was NATURALIZED
to Indonesia so he could attend public school there. Regaining
citizenship after being a citizen of another country means he's a
naturalized citizen NOT eligible for the office.

That angle is unlikely to succeed, because U.S. law makes it almost
impossible to renounce one's U.S. citizenship. It could also be
argued that as a minor he could not consent to renounce his U.S.
citizenship.
-----
His step-father renounced it for him.

His step-father does not, under U.S. law, have that authority.


Indonesian law FORBIDS dual-citizenship and requires Indonesian
citizenship in order to attend public school.

LIE.

Obama, under his alias
"Barry Soetero," did attend Indonesian public school. Therefore, by
operation of law, his ONLY citizenship at the time is that of
Indonesia. QED.

LIE.


Another lie.

When I apply for a U.S. passport, the burden of proof is
on me to show
I was born in the USA.

Obama has a U.S. passport, so according to you, he was born
in the U.S.A. I'm glad that we agree on that.

"Dank 110100100" <dank...@rocketmail.com> wrote in message

news:b84e81dc-b594-4166-9256-8f6c125a5a98@l5g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 27, 6:09 pm, "D. Stussy" <s...@bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote:

Even if born in Hawaii, that isn't the end of the issue. He also has to
prove that he didn't LOSE his citizenship when he was NATURALIZED to
Indonesia so he could attend public school there. Regaining citizenship
after being a citizen of another country means he's a naturalized citizen
NOT eligible for the office.

That angle is unlikely to succeed, because U.S. law makes it almost
impossible to renounce one's U.S. citizenship.  It could also be
argued that as a minor he could not consent to renounce his U.S.
citizenship.
-----
His step-father renounced it for him.

Indonesian law FORBIDS dual-citizenship and requires Indonesian citizenship
in order to attend public school.

 Obama, under his alias "Barry Soetero,"
did attend Indonesian public school.  Therefore, by operation of law, his
ONLY citizenship at the time is that of Indonesia.  QED.

Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:

The burden of proof is on Bammer to show he's a natural born citizen.

Au contraire, mon moronic wingnut kooker birther, the burden of proof is
*ALWAYS* on the accuser.

We're still waiting for him to produce the evidence.

We're still waiting for you wingnut kooker birthers to produce the
evidence.

"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont.Cranston@MindFogger.com> wrote in message
news:h4na1f$ptc$1@news.datemas.de...
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:

The burden of proof is on Bammer to show he's a natural born citizen.

Which is something he did some time ago.

Some people just can not accept reality.


Au contraire, mon moronic wingnut kooker birther, the burden of proof is
*ALWAYS* on the accuser.

Actually, that's not always the case, everywhere.

For example, in British libel laws, the burden is on the defendant to prove
that they did *not* libel the plaintiff. The plaintiff needs to do little
other than file a complaint.

That's why David Irving sued Deborah Lipstadt and Penguin books in a British
court, rather than an American court. He was hoping the costs of defence
would cause them to give him a financial settlement.

His hopes were not borne out, and the costs awarded bankrupted him.

We're still waiting for him to produce the evidence.

We're still waiting for you wingnut kooker birthers to produce the
evidence.

Which of course they won't do, because all the evidence actually shows that
Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii.

-pk

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:33:35 -0400, BDK <TopShill@sanity.com> wrote:

In article <rdv075tsfp28f3bafg3sqr7eu74rj93h4l@4ax.com>,
gov.shill@gmail.com says...
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:37:29 -0400, BDK <TopShill@sanity.com> wrote:


My ex GF (Who is probably reading this)

Hi BDK's ex GF!



She says hi back! I wish she would delurk, but she's resistant to my
attempts to get her to post to the kooks directly.

Tell her to use a pseudonym. LaughsAtLoons, or LayOnThisCouch, or
BabbleTranslater. Something like that?

--
Shill #2

Pay Section
Disinformation Directorate
Ministry of Information
European Division

D. Stussy wrote:
"Dank 110100100" <dank420@rocketmail.com> wrote in message

news:b84e81dc-b594-4166-9256-8f6c125a5a98@l5g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 27, 6:09 pm, "D. Stussy" <s...@bde-arc.ampr.org
wrote:
Even if born in Hawaii, that isn't the end of the issue.
He also has
to prove that he didn't LOSE his citizenship when he was
NATURALIZED
to Indonesia so he could attend public school there.
Regaining
citizenship after being a citizen of another country
means he's a
naturalized citizen NOT eligible for the office.

That angle is unlikely to succeed, because U.S. law makes
it almost
impossible to renounce one's U.S. citizenship. It could
also be
argued that as a minor he could not consent to renounce
his U.S.
citizenship.
-----
His step-father renounced it for him.

His step-father does not, under U.S. law, have that
authority.

Indonesian law FORBIDS dual-citizenship and requires
Indonesian citizenship in order to attend public school.

Obama, under his alias
"Barry Soetero," did attend Indonesian public school.
Therefore, by
operation of law, his ONLY citizenship at the time is that
of Indonesia. QED.

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:51:45 -0700, "D. Stussy"
spam@bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote:
"Dank 110100100" <dank420@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
news:b84e81dc-b594-4166-9256-8f6c125a5a98@l5g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 27, 6:09 pm, "D. Stussy" <s...@bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote:
Even if born in Hawaii, that isn't the end of the issue. He also has
to
prove that he didn't LOSE his citizenship when he was NATURALIZED to
Indonesia so he could attend public school there. Regaining
citizenship
after being a citizen of another country means he's a naturalized
citizen
NOT eligible for the office.

That angle is unlikely to succeed, because U.S. law makes it almost
impossible to renounce one's U.S. citizenship. It could also be
argued that as a minor he could not consent to renounce his U.S.
citizenship.
-----
His step-father renounced it for him.

Indonesian law FORBIDS dual-citizenship and requires Indonesian
citizenship
in order to attend public school. Obama, under his alias "Barry
Soetero,"
did attend Indonesian public school. Therefore, by operation of law,
his
ONLY citizenship at the time is that of Indonesia. QED.

If that is, you assume that Indonesian law trumps American law inside
the United States. Otherwise, not so much.

"Dank 110100100" <dank...@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
news:b84e81dc-b594-4166-9256-8f6c125a5a98@l5g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 27, 6:09 pm, "D. Stussy" <s...@bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote:
Even if born in Hawaii, that isn't the end of the issue. He also has to
prove that he didn't LOSE his citizenship when he was NATURALIZED to
Indonesia so he could attend public school there. Regaining citizenship
after being a citizen of another country means he's a naturalized
citizen
NOT eligible for the office.

That angle is unlikely to succeed, because U.S. law makes it almost
impossible to renounce one's U.S. citizenship. It could also be
argued that as a minor he could not consent to renounce his U.S.
citizenship.
-----
His step-father renounced it for him.

Indonesian law FORBIDS dual-citizenship and requires Indonesian
citizenship
in order to attend public school.

Obama, under his alias "Barry Soetero,"
did attend Indonesian public school. Therefore, by operation of law, his
ONLY citizenship at the time is that of Indonesia. QED.