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| Taka |
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 3:45 am |
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Any ideas on this? So far I just found the prevention - which is
rutin, the vitamin strengthening blood vessels. I suspect getting my
floaters during the years of fish oil supplementation because of their
"bleeding nature". Any heavy Omega-3/fish oil user suffering from the
eye floaters too (the dark ones from the blood clots)?
Taka
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Eye Floaters
Do you have any magical cures for eye floaters? A common question I’ve
heard over the years. Yes and no. Here’s what I’ve learned:
There are no magical cures for floaters—only prevention for making
more of them. Floaters are caused by a micro hemorrhage of the blood
vessels in the back of the eye--when the bleeding contracts, the blood
clot floats within the vitreous humor of the eye. After a time, the
body adapts to the floater and is not consciously seen unless the
person concentrates to see it. So "they" say.
The goal is to strengthen the blood vessels so they won’t bruise or
rupture.
Products that seem to be working the best for the general population
include:
Zinc Liver Chelate by Standard Process
Visual Eyes by Source Naturals
Ocu-Guard Plus by Twin Labs, which doesn't work as well as either of
the above, but still works well and is usually readily available in
most health food stores. Ocu-Guard without the plus doesn’t work very
well, so don’t get that.
Rutin, a molecule of vitamin C, which helps to strengthen the
connections between the cells to prevent further bruising and bursting
of the blood vessels. Rutin is sometimes hard to find, but it’s really
cheap when you find it—or you can eat lots of citrus fruit (especially
the white part of the rind is high in rutin) or eat lots of buckwheat
which is also high in rutin.
If you have a zinc deficiency (like most of my clients seem to have)
you'll have lots of other symptoms of that. The same goes for copper
deficiency (mostly tendon/ligament problems) here.
If you go to my Diet/Nutrition part of the website, you'll find lots
of Best Bet Sources for Zinc and Copper as well as the deficiency
signs for those minerals. Here’s the link:
http://www.naturalhealthtechniques.com/Diet_Nutrition/mineral_best_bet_foods1.htm
Other dis-eases that can predispose a person to floaters are high
blood pressure and taking blood thinners and NSAIDS such as aspirin,
Tylenol, and even Ginkgo biloba on a regular basis.
If you bruise easily—you also have a predisposition for hemorrhage
within the ocular vessels. There is usually a reason for the bruising
and high blood pressure. Getting to the core cause of these diseases
is just really helpful in preventing all kinds of other problems
including the floaters. Everything ties into everything else.
Magic cures? No. Prevention? Yes!
SOURCE: http://www.naturalhealthtechniques.com/SpecificDiseases/eyefloaters..htm |
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| gedropi |
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:03 pm |
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On Jun 26, 8:45 pm, Taka <taka0...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: Any ideas on this? So far I just found the prevention - which is
rutin, the vitamin strengthening blood vessels. I suspect getting my
floaters during the years of fish oil supplementation because of their
"bleeding nature". Any heavy Omega-3/fish oil user suffering from the
eye floaters too (the dark ones from the blood clots)?
Taka
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Eye Floaters
Do you have any magical cures for eye floaters? A common question I’ve
heard over the years. Yes and no. Here’s what I’ve learned:
There are no magical cures for floaters—only prevention for making
more of them. Floaters are caused by a micro hemorrhage of the blood
vessels in the back of the eye--when the bleeding contracts, the blood
clot floats within the vitreous humor of the eye. After a time, the
body adapts to the floater and is not consciously seen unless the
person concentrates to see it. So "they" say.
The goal is to strengthen the blood vessels so they won’t bruise or
rupture.
Products that seem to be working the best for the general population
include:
Zinc Liver Chelate by Standard Process
Visual Eyes by Source Naturals
Ocu-Guard Plus by Twin Labs, which doesn't work as well as either of
the above, but still works well and is usually readily available in
most health food stores. Ocu-Guard without the plus doesn’t work very
well, so don’t get that.
Rutin, a molecule of vitamin C, which helps to strengthen the
connections between the cells to prevent further bruising and bursting
of the blood vessels. Rutin is sometimes hard to find, but it’s really
cheap when you find it—or you can eat lots of citrus fruit (especially
the white part of the rind is high in rutin) or eat lots of buckwheat
which is also high in rutin.
If you have a zinc deficiency (like most of my clients seem to have)
you'll have lots of other symptoms of that. The same goes for copper
deficiency (mostly tendon/ligament problems) here.
If you go to my Diet/Nutrition part of the website, you'll find lots
of Best Bet Sources for Zinc and Copper as well as the deficiency
signs for those minerals. Here’s the link:http://www.naturalhealthtechniques.com/Diet_Nutrition/mineral_best_be...
Other dis-eases that can predispose a person to floaters are high
blood pressure and taking blood thinners and NSAIDS such as aspirin,
Tylenol, and even Ginkgo biloba on a regular basis.
If you bruise easily—you also have a predisposition for hemorrhage
within the ocular vessels. There is usually a reason for the bruising
and high blood pressure. Getting to the core cause of these diseases
is just really helpful in preventing all kinds of other problems
including the floaters. Everything ties into everything else.
Magic cures? No. Prevention? Yes!
SOURCE:http://www.naturalhealthtechniques.com/SpecificDiseases/eyefloaters.htm
I have read that high myopics have a tendency towards floaters (and
detached retinas). The articles that I read on this subject suggested
a link between flax oil, rather than fish oil supplements, and
floaters. From experience I have observed that removing the flax oil
supplementation also removed the floaters. |
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| Taka |
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:59 am |
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On Jul 1, 1:03 am, gedropi <gedr...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On Jun 26, 8:45 pm, Taka <taka0...@gmail.com> wrote:
Any ideas on this? So far I just found the prevention - which is
rutin, the vitamin strengthening blood vessels. I suspect getting my
floaters during the years of fish oil supplementation because of their
"bleeding nature". Any heavy Omega-3/fish oil user suffering from the
eye floaters too (the dark ones from the blood clots)?
Taka
--------------------
Eye Floaters
Do you have any magical cures for eye floaters? A common question I’ve
heard over the years. Yes and no. Here’s what I’ve learned:
There are no magical cures for floaters—only prevention for making
more of them. Floaters are caused by a micro hemorrhage of the blood
vessels in the back of the eye--when the bleeding contracts, the blood
clot floats within the vitreous humor of the eye. After a time, the
body adapts to the floater and is not consciously seen unless the
person concentrates to see it. So "they" say.
The goal is to strengthen the blood vessels so they won’t bruise or
rupture.
Products that seem to be working the best for the general population
include:
Zinc Liver Chelate by Standard Process
Visual Eyes by Source Naturals
Ocu-Guard Plus by Twin Labs, which doesn't work as well as either of
the above, but still works well and is usually readily available in
most health food stores. Ocu-Guard without the plus doesn’t work very
well, so don’t get that.
Rutin, a molecule of vitamin C, which helps to strengthen the
connections between the cells to prevent further bruising and bursting
of the blood vessels. Rutin is sometimes hard to find, but it’s really
cheap when you find it—or you can eat lots of citrus fruit (especially
the white part of the rind is high in rutin) or eat lots of buckwheat
which is also high in rutin.
If you have a zinc deficiency (like most of my clients seem to have)
you'll have lots of other symptoms of that. The same goes for copper
deficiency (mostly tendon/ligament problems) here.
If you go to my Diet/Nutrition part of the website, you'll find lots
of Best Bet Sources for Zinc and Copper as well as the deficiency
signs for those minerals. Here’s the link:http://www.naturalhealthtechniques.com/Diet_Nutrition/mineral_best_be...
Other dis-eases that can predispose a person to floaters are high
blood pressure and taking blood thinners and NSAIDS such as aspirin,
Tylenol, and even Ginkgo biloba on a regular basis.
If you bruise easily—you also have a predisposition for hemorrhage
within the ocular vessels. There is usually a reason for the bruising
and high blood pressure. Getting to the core cause of these diseases
is just really helpful in preventing all kinds of other problems
including the floaters. Everything ties into everything else.
Magic cures? No. Prevention? Yes!
SOURCE:http://www.naturalhealthtechniques.com/SpecificDiseases/eyefloaters.htm
I have read that high myopics have a tendency towards floaters (and
detached retinas). The articles that I read on this subject suggested
a link between flax oil, rather than fish oil supplements, and
floaters. From experience I have observed that removing the flax oil
supplementation also removed the floaters.
I had been supplementing flax oil heavily in the past actually (3+
years) and just capped it with the fish oil which made me really sick
quickly. The fish oil contained VitE while the flax was pure without
any antioxidants. They don't go away now (rather increasing) when I
am on a moderately restricted PUFA diet (I still eat some fried items
and "fatty" fish like sushi occasionally). Heavy computer use and
weight lifting could be contributing factors too.
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:43 am |
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On Jun 26, 8:45 pm, Taka <taka0...@gmail.com> wrote:
Any ideas on this? <<
Phytic acid ..
They did a rabbit study ..
I placed it hear years ago .. used it a few times .. so it
is here somewhere ..
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/634q5a
Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
So far I just found the prevention - which is
Quote: rutin, the vitamin strengthening blood vessels. I suspect getting my
floaters during the years of fish oil supplementation because of their
"bleeding nature". Any heavy Omega-3/fish oil user suffering from the
eye floaters too (the dark ones from the blood clots)?
Taka
--------------------
Eye Floaters
Do you have any magical cures for eye floaters? A common question I’ve
heard over the years. Yes and no. Here’s what I’ve learned:
There are no magical cures for floaters—only prevention for making
more of them. Floaters are caused by a micro hemorrhage of the blood
vessels in the back of the eye--when the bleeding contracts, the blood
clot floats within the vitreous humor of the eye. After a time, the
body adapts to the floater and is not consciously seen unless the
person concentrates to see it. So "they" say.
The goal is to strengthen the blood vessels so they won’t bruise or
rupture.
Products that seem to be working the best for the general population
include:
Zinc Liver Chelate by Standard Process
Visual Eyes by Source Naturals
Ocu-Guard Plus by Twin Labs, which doesn't work as well as either of
the above, but still works well and is usually readily available in
most health food stores. Ocu-Guard without the plus doesn’t work very
well, so don’t get that.
Rutin, a molecule of vitamin C, which helps to strengthen the
connections between the cells to prevent further bruising and bursting
of the blood vessels. Rutin is sometimes hard to find, but it’s really
cheap when you find it—or you can eat lots of citrus fruit (especially
the white part of the rind is high in rutin) or eat lots of buckwheat
which is also high in rutin.
If you have a zinc deficiency (like most of my clients seem to have)
you'll have lots of other symptoms of that. The same goes for copper
deficiency (mostly tendon/ligament problems) here.
If you go to my Diet/Nutrition part of the website, you'll find lots
of Best Bet Sources for Zinc and Copper as well as the deficiency
signs for those minerals. Here’s the link:http://www.naturalhealthtechniques.com/Diet_Nutrition/mineral_best_be...
Other dis-eases that can predispose a person to floaters are high
blood pressure and taking blood thinners and NSAIDS such as aspirin,
Tylenol, and even Ginkgo biloba on a regular basis.
If you bruise easily—you also have a predisposition for hemorrhage
within the ocular vessels. There is usually a reason for the bruising
and high blood pressure. Getting to the core cause of these diseases
is just really helpful in preventing all kinds of other problems
including the floaters. Everything ties into everything else.
Magic cures? No. Prevention? Yes!
SOURCE:http://www.naturalhealthtechniques.com/SpecificDiseases/eyefloaters.htm |
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| Taka |
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:13 am |
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On Jul 1, 12:43 pm, ironjustice <ironjust...@rock.com> wrote:
Quote: On Jun 26, 8:45 pm, Taka <taka0...@gmail.com> wrote:
Any ideas on this?
Phytic acid ..
From the blog MikeV brought recently:
Phytic Acid
The active ingredient in fiber that provides its benefits is phytic
acid, the same chemical that people are trying to eliminate. Phytic
acid acts as a chelator. I don't think it is actually a problem. The
problem comes from extracting cations from the phytic acid before it
is eaten. Phytic acid should go in saturated, so that it doesn't
contribute to deficiencies. The actual problem is that the diet is
already low in minerals, because of eating processed foods that are
mineral deficient.
So Tom, tell me please which grain is the richest source of the cation-
saturated phytate for a test, oats?
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| gedropi |
Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:16 pm |
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On Jun 30, 6:59 pm, Taka <taka0...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On Jul 1, 1:03 am, gedropi <gedr...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 26, 8:45 pm, Taka <taka0...@gmail.com> wrote:
Any ideas on this? So far I just found the prevention - which is
rutin, the vitamin strengthening blood vessels. I suspect getting my
floatersduring the years of fish oil supplementation because of their
"bleeding nature". Any heavy Omega-3/fish oil user suffering from the
eyefloaterstoo (the dark ones from the blood clots)?
Taka
--------------------
EyeFloaters
Do you have any magical cures for eyefloaters? A common question I’ve
heard over the years. Yes and no. Here’s what I’ve learned:
There are no magical cures forfloaters—only prevention for making
more of them.Floatersare caused by a micro hemorrhage of the blood
vessels in the back of the eye--when the bleeding contracts, the blood
clot floats within the vitreous humor of the eye. After a time, the
body adapts to the floater and is not consciously seen unless the
person concentrates to see it. So "they" say.
The goal is to strengthen the blood vessels so they won’t bruise or
rupture.
Products that seem to be working the best for the general population
include:
Zinc Liver Chelate by Standard Process
Visual Eyes by Source Naturals
Ocu-Guard Plus by Twin Labs, which doesn't work as well as either of
the above, but still works well and is usually readily available in
most health food stores. Ocu-Guard without the plus doesn’t work very
well, so don’t get that.
Rutin, a molecule of vitamin C, which helps to strengthen the
connections between the cells to prevent further bruising and bursting
of the blood vessels. Rutin is sometimes hard to find, but it’s really
cheap when you find it—or you can eat lots of citrus fruit (especially
the white part of the rind is high in rutin) or eat lots of buckwheat
which is also high in rutin.
If you have a zinc deficiency (like most of my clients seem to have)
you'll have lots of other symptoms of that. The same goes for copper
deficiency (mostly tendon/ligament problems) here.
If you go to my Diet/Nutrition part of the website, you'll find lots
of Best Bet Sources for Zinc and Copper as well as the deficiency
signs for those minerals. Here’s the link:http://www.naturalhealthtechniques.com/Diet_Nutrition/mineral_best_be...
Other dis-eases that can predispose a person tofloatersare high
blood pressure and taking blood thinners and NSAIDS such as aspirin,
Tylenol, and even Ginkgo biloba on a regular basis.
If you bruise easily—you also have a predisposition for hemorrhage
within the ocular vessels. There is usually a reason for the bruising
and high blood pressure. Getting to the core cause of these diseases
is just really helpful in preventing all kinds of other problems
including thefloaters. Everything ties into everything else.
Magic cures? No. Prevention? Yes!
SOURCE:http://www.naturalhealthtechniques.com/SpecificDiseases/eyefloaters.htm
I have read that high myopics have a tendency towardsfloaters(and
detached retinas). The articles that I read on this subject suggested
a link between flax oil, rather than fish oil supplements, and
floaters. From experience I have observed that removing the flax oil
supplementation also removed thefloaters.
I had been supplementing flax oil heavily in the past actually (3+
years) and just capped it with the fish oil which made me really sick
quickly. The fish oil contained VitE while the flax was pure without
any antioxidants. They don't go away now (rather increasing) when I
am on a moderately restricted PUFA diet (I still eat some fried items
and "fatty" fish like sushi occasionally). Heavy computer use and
weight lifting could be contributing factors too.
Taka
Have you considered Borage or Evening Primrose Oil (or other more
expensive healthy oils)? Also, the Rutin makes sense. Along the same
line as Rutin, what about Horse Chestnut? |
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