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John Devereux
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:52 pm
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Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> writes:

Quote:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:57:55 +0100, John Devereux
john@devereux.me.uk> wrote:

Jon Kirwan <jonk@infinitefactors.org> writes:

On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:06:26 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman
bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

snip
Jim Thompson reports me to the FBI as "dangerously anti-American"
snip

Not seriously, did he? You _are_ kidding about this, right?

Jim posted that he did, convincingly IMO. (A contact he knew in the
local FBI field office IIRC?). It was quite a few years ago but I still
remember since I was shocked too at the time.

IMO it's bad both because of any possible real-world effect on Bill
(unlikely I guess), and because this sort of thing pollutes any FBI
"list" to the point of uselessness, perhaps allowing actual real bad
guys to slip through.

To me it's the same principle as the view that a false rape report is a
worse act than the actual reported crime, because a single instance
throws into doubt all the genuine ones...

Slowman is anti-American, is he not? If we let him enter the US Obama
would give him unemployment benefits for life, and make him Minister
of Propaganda Sad

Surely people are not reported just for being "anti-american" (whatever
that is supposed to mean)? That's most of the world recently! You're
going to need a bigger list...

"*dangerously* anti-american" to me implies terrorism or some such, at
least in the context is being reported to the FBI. Of course I don't
know exactly what was said.

I suspect you would call everyone who voted Democrat "dangerously
anti-american" - I assume you are diligently working your way through
reporting them too? :)


--

John Devereux
Richard the Dreaded Liber
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:52 pm
Guest
On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 00:20:28 -0500, Tim Williams wrote:
Quote:
"Jon Kirwan" <jonk@infinitefactors.org> wrote in message
news:049q65l10pishjj1b0e1ijortkd9haddik@4ax.com...
snip
Jim Thompson reports me to the FBI as "dangerously anti-American"
snip

Not seriously, did he? You _are_ kidding about this, right?

That was indeed Jim's bragging, not Bill's.

Somebody should get a description of his car and make an anonymous

call to Homeland Security to report that you'd seen one matching
its description in front of a suspected terrorist enclave.

Cheers!
Rich
Richard the Dreaded Liber
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:52 pm
Guest
On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:19:33 +0100, John Devereux wrote:
Quote:

Surely people are not reported just for being "anti-american" (whatever
that is supposed to mean)? That's most of the world recently! You're
going to need a bigger list...

The anti-Americans are the socialists in Washington, DC.

Thanks,
Rich
Jim Thompson
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:52 pm
Guest
On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:57:55 +0100, John Devereux
<john@devereux.me.uk> wrote:

Quote:
Jon Kirwan <jonk@infinitefactors.org> writes:

On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:06:26 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman
bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

snip
Jim Thompson reports me to the FBI as "dangerously anti-American"
snip

Not seriously, did he? You _are_ kidding about this, right?

Jim posted that he did, convincingly IMO. (A contact he knew in the
local FBI field office IIRC?). It was quite a few years ago but I still
remember since I was shocked too at the time.

IMO it's bad both because of any possible real-world effect on Bill
(unlikely I guess), and because this sort of thing pollutes any FBI
"list" to the point of uselessness, perhaps allowing actual real bad
guys to slip through.

To me it's the same principle as the view that a false rape report is a
worse act than the actual reported crime, because a single instance
throws into doubt all the genuine ones...

Slowman is anti-American, is he not? If we let him enter the US Obama
would give him unemployment benefits for life, and make him Minister
of Propaganda :-(

I'm always pleased to note that I'm the highest standard for Slowman's
disdain, but please don't feed the jerk. Let him die that most
unpleasant of deaths... alone ;-)

...Jim Thompson
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don
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:52 pm
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John Devereux wrote:
Quote:
Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> writes:

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:57:55 +0100, John Devereux
john@devereux.me.uk> wrote:

Jon Kirwan <jonk@infinitefactors.org> writes:

On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:06:26 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman
bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

snip
Jim Thompson reports me to the FBI as "dangerously anti-American"
snip
Not seriously, did he? You _are_ kidding about this, right?
Jim posted that he did, convincingly IMO. (A contact he knew in the
local FBI field office IIRC?). It was quite a few years ago but I still
remember since I was shocked too at the time.

IMO it's bad both because of any possible real-world effect on Bill
(unlikely I guess), and because this sort of thing pollutes any FBI
"list" to the point of uselessness, perhaps allowing actual real bad
guys to slip through.

To me it's the same principle as the view that a false rape report is a
worse act than the actual reported crime, because a single instance
throws into doubt all the genuine ones...
Slowman is anti-American, is he not? If we let him enter the US Obama
would give him unemployment benefits for life, and make him Minister
of Propaganda :-(

Surely people are not reported just for being "anti-american" (whatever
that is supposed to mean)? That's most of the world recently! You're
going to need a bigger list...

"*dangerously* anti-american" to me implies terrorism or some such, at
least in the context is being reported to the FBI. Of course I don't
know exactly what was said.

I suspect you would call everyone who voted Democrat "dangerously
anti-american" - I assume you are diligently working your way through
reporting them too? :)


His primary achievement has been in confusing the public mind,

as between the internal and the external threats ......

We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty.

We must remember always that accusation is not proof and that conviction
depends upon evidence and due process of law.

We will not walk in fear, one of another.

We will not be driven by fear into an age of unreason,
if we dig deep in our history and our doctrine,
and remember that we are not descended from fearful men. [...]

We proclaim ourselves, as indeed we are, the defenders of freedom,
wherever it continues to exist in the world,
but we cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.

The actions of the junior Senator from Wisconsin have caused alarm
and dismay amongst our allies abroad,
and given considerable comfort to our enemies.

And whose fault is that? Not really his.
He didn't create this situation of fear;
he merely exploited it — and rather successfully.

For every Joseph R. McCarthy there is an Edward R. Murrow.
Mark Zenier
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:20 pm
Guest
In article <a10s65p0i8i805453016sfbjh5h0qhupqq@4ax.com>,
Jon Kirwan <jonk@infinitefactors.org> wrote:
Quote:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 05:33:06 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman
bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

On Jul 27, 1:53 pm, Jon Kirwan <j...@infinitefactors.org> wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:06:26 -0700 (PDT),Bill Sloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
snip
Jim Thompson reports me to the FBI as "dangerously anti-American"
snip

Not seriously, did he?  You _are_ kidding about this, right?

Happily, I've only got Jim's word for it, but he seems to be convinced
that he did it.

Probably did, then. Amazing to me that he'd care that much to waste
everyone else's time over it. Oh, well. Paranoia (or spitefulness)
is alive and well in the world, I guess.

There's some irony here for you.

Actor/Comedian Harry Shearer (Spinal Tap, The Simpsons) has a weekly
radio program, "Le Show", with comedy and political commentary. One
occasional segment is "Tales of Airport Security", where he tells the
stories that he gets from the press and that listeners send in.

A couple of weeks ago, he retold a story sent in by a listener about
the extra effort they had to go to get their boarding passes, including
how the automated kiosk wouldn't work for her husband but worked fine
for her ticket, and how they had to wait in line and get a human being
to deal with the problem of the missing boarding pass. After the ticket
agent did all sorts of stuff on his terminal, and a trip to the back
room with the problem passenger's ID, he admitted that the man had
a common name that was on the "Do Not Fly" list and it took some effort
to determine if he was the real person on the threat list, or just
someone with the same name. The man's name was Jim Thompson.


Mark Zenier mzenier@eskimo.com
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)
Bill Sloman
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:38 am
Guest
On Jul 30, 3:29 am, Richard the Dreaded Libertarian
<freedom_...@example.net> wrote:
Quote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:20:29 +0000, Mark Zenier wrote:
room with the problem passenger's ID, he admitted that the man had
a common name that was on the "Do Not Fly" list and it took some effort
to determine if he was the real person on the threat list, or just
someone with the same name.  The man's name was Jim Thompson.

Well, now that the Socialists are in charge, it's the right-wingers
who are listed as dangerous terrorists. >:-

I thought that Timothy McVeigh had already managed that, a couple of
administration changes ago.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
 
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