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| Roger Coppock |
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| Rich |
| Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:57 pm |
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On Jul 29, 3:40 pm, Roger Coppock <rcopp...@adnc.com> wrote:
Quote: TV's Mythbusters are no Fossil Fools!
{"Mythbusters" is a science show on both the Science and Discovery
Channels.
For more information please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_MythBusters_special_episodes#Spe...
CONFIRMED:
Greenhouse gases increase the amount of heat absorbed by air.
This was a very tightly controlled experiment
performed on a large scale and monitored
by the very best equipment. Those in doubt
should view the DVD.
This from the group who gleefully blow things up, burn things all the
while producing copious amounts of C02. |
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| chemist |
| Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 8:07 pm |
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On Jul 29, 8:40 pm, Roger Coppock <rcopp...@adnc.com> wrote:
Quote: TV's Mythbusters are no Fossil Fools!
{"Mythbusters" is a science show on both the Science and Discovery
Channels.
For more information please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_MythBusters_special_episodes#Spe...
CONFIRMED:
Greenhouse gases increase the amount of heat absorbed by air.
This was a very tightly controlled experiment
performed on a large scale and monitored
by the very best equipment. Those in doubt
should view the DVD.
They should have tried insulating the containers
to prevent heat loss to the atmosphere since
CO2 cools more slowly than air
By the way Methane warms slower than air
in any repetition of the regular experiment |
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| chemist |
| Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:09 pm |
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On Jul 29, 9:44 pm, "Ouroboros Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote:
Quote: chemist wrote:
On Jul 29, 8:40 pm, Roger Coppock <rcopp...@adnc.com> wrote:
TV's Mythbusters are no Fossil Fools!
{"Mythbusters" is a science show on both the Science and Discovery
Channels.
For more information please see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters
}
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_MythBusters_special_episodes#Spe....
CONFIRMED:
Greenhouse gases increase the amount of heat absorbed by air.
This was a very tightly controlled experiment
performed on a large scale and monitored
by the very best equipment. Those in doubt
should view the DVD.
They should have tried insulating the containers
to prevent heat loss to the atmosphere
Yeah, no way are they measuring heat loss. ROFLMAO
That's exactly what they are doing some the heat generated
by the IR is escaping through walls of the container.
It just happens that air cools faster than CO2
Insulation shows that the air warms at the same rate
as CO2.
Heat loss is not Greenhouse warming.
The experiment when properly conducted
shows that it does not demonstrate
Greenhouse Warming.
It is a scam and Roger knows it.
Aquo
One cautionary note to relay is the result of frustrating
personal experience. There is a strong temptation to use
aquarium lids to reduce the loss of CO2 from the experimental
tank over the duration of the run. We had transparent
fiberglass lids fabricated for both tanks, but for
reasons that remain not altogether clear to us, these lids
seem to completely suppress the differential heating of the
two tanks. As several textbooks note, the “greenhouse effect”
is a misnomer because greenhouses stay warm
through an entirely different mechanism – the glass prevents
conductive and convective heat loss – so that the insulating
effects of the fiberglass lids may have overwhelmed
the greenhouse warming in the tanks. It is worth
noting, however, that we later did get good results using
glass lids. Partially because of the early frustration and
partially because of our own uncertainly about the mechanisms
at work, we have used open tanks ever since. As
noted earlier, the carbon dioxide is denser than air, so that
it persists in the tank for some time. |
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| chemist |
| Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:09 pm |
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On Jul 29, 8:40 pm, Roger Coppock <rcopp...@adnc.com> wrote:
Quote: TV's Mythbusters are no Fossil Fools!
{"Mythbusters" is a science show on both the Science and Discovery
Channels.
For more information please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters
}
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_MythBusters_special_episodes#Spe...
CONFIRMED:
Greenhouse gases increase the amount of heat absorbed by air.
This was a very tightly controlled experiment
performed on a large scale and monitored
by the very best equipment. Those in doubt
should view the DVD. |
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| chemist |
| Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:14 pm |
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On Jul 29, 8:40 pm, Roger Coppock <rcopp...@adnc.com> wrote:
Quote: TV's Mythbusters are no Fossil Fools!
Those in doubt
should view the DVD.
Publish it on You tube.
Don't keep it secret |
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| E.A. |
| Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:19 am |
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On Jul 29, 12:40 pm, Roger Coppock <rcopp...@adnc.com> wrote:
Quote: TV's Mythbusters are no Fossil Fools!
{"Mythbusters" is a science show on both the Science and Discovery
Channels.
For more information please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters
}
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_MythBusters_special_episodes#Spe...
CONFIRMED:
Greenhouse gases increase the amount of heat absorbed by air.
This was a very tightly controlled experiment
performed on a large scale and monitored
by the very best equipment. Those in doubt
should view the DVD.
That's a critical point to highlight. The mechanism by which CO2 traps
heat, and the small amounts required to do so (see my post on covering
open car windows with thin plastic film) is poorly understood, and has
given the Creatard Right many avenues for deception.
The standard line is that .03% of the atmosphere can't possibly cause
it to warm. Yes it can! And that percentage keeps rising, of course.
Now, I'm sure someone will pan MythBusters as a "liberal front group."
So be it. Being called "liberal" in the scientific realm usually means
you've got evidence Creatards can't cope with.
E.A.
http://enough_already.tripod.com/
If evidence doesn't suit you, dumb it down and spin it. |
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| E.A. |
| Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:35 am |
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On Jul 29, 12:57 pm, Rich <rander3...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On Jul 29, 3:40 pm, Roger Coppock <rcopp...@adnc.com> wrote:
TV's Mythbusters are no Fossil Fools!
{"Mythbusters" is a science show on both the Science and Discovery
Channels.
For more information please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters
}
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_MythBusters_special_episodes#Spe...
CONFIRMED:
Greenhouse gases increase the amount of heat absorbed by air.
This was a very tightly controlled experiment
performed on a large scale and monitored
by the very best equipment. Those in doubt
should view the DVD.
This from the group who gleefully blow things up, burn things all the
while producing copious amounts of C02.
Oldest wingnut tactic in the world. You'd never mention their
"hypocrisy" were they Dittoheads. Easier to pick on the excesses of a
few "liberal" celebrities and ignore the billions of average people
contributing CO2 in bulk.
Ever play the lottery? That's an upside of cumulative additions, while
AGW is a downside. Think about it.
AGW is essentially a population problem, worsened by 75,000,000
additional people each year, worldwide. Some burn more carbon than
others but stopping them alone will not solve the problem.
E.A.
http://enough_already.tripod.com/
Nature can't hear your excu$e$. |
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| Ouroboros Rex |
| Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:42 am |
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Rich wrote:
Quote: On Jul 29, 3:40 pm, Roger Coppock <rcopp...@adnc.com> wrote:
TV's Mythbusters are no Fossil Fools!
{"Mythbusters" is a science show on both the Science and Discovery
Channels.
For more information please see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters
}
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_MythBusters_special_episodes#Spe...
CONFIRMED:
Greenhouse gases increase the amount of heat absorbed by air.
This was a very tightly controlled experiment
performed on a large scale and monitored
by the very best equipment. Those in doubt
should view the DVD.
This from the group who gleefully blow things up, burn things all the
while producing copious amounts of C02.
So? |
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| Ouroboros Rex |
| Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:44 am |
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chemist wrote:
Quote: On Jul 29, 8:40 pm, Roger Coppock <rcopp...@adnc.com> wrote:
TV's Mythbusters are no Fossil Fools!
{"Mythbusters" is a science show on both the Science and Discovery
Channels.
For more information please see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters
}
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_MythBusters_special_episodes#Spe...
CONFIRMED:
Greenhouse gases increase the amount of heat absorbed by air.
This was a very tightly controlled experiment
performed on a large scale and monitored
by the very best equipment. Those in doubt
should view the DVD.
They should have tried insulating the containers
to prevent heat loss to the atmosphere
Yeah, no way are they measuring heat loss. ROFLMAO |
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| James |
| Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:31 am |
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Roger Coppock wrote:
ROTFL |
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| enigma |
| Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:03 am |
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On Jul 29, 6:02 pm, "James" <kingko...@iglou.com> wrote:
Quote: E.A. wrote:
On Jul 29, 12:40 pm, Roger Coppock <rcopp...@adnc.com> wrote:
TV's Mythbusters are no Fossil Fools!
{"Mythbusters" is a science show on both the Science and Discovery
Channels.
For more information please see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters
}
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_MythBusters_special_episodes#Spe....
CONFIRMED:
Greenhouse gases increase the amount of heat absorbed by air.
This was a very tightly controlled experiment
performed on a large scale and monitored
by the very best equipment. Those in doubt
should view the DVD.
That's a critical point to highlight. The mechanism by which CO2 traps
heat, and the small amounts required to do so (see my post on covering
open car windows with thin plastic film) is poorly understood, and has
given the Creatard Right many avenues for deception.
The standard line is that .03% of the atmosphere can't possibly cause
it to warm. Yes it can! And that percentage keeps rising, of course.
Now, I'm sure someone will pan MythBusters as a "liberal front group."
So be it. Being called "liberal" in the scientific realm usually means
you've got evidence Creatards can't cope with.
Not a liberal front group. Just bad experiments. It's popular with the
comic book crowd and there are many of them in the AGW movement.
Let's see, how many times have you been proven as a liar here?
If the experiment was done over again with better equipment,
the result would be the same and you know it. |
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| tunderbar |
| Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:09 am |
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On Jul 29, 2:40 pm, Roger Coppock <rcopp...@adnc.com> wrote:
Quote: TV's Mythbusters are no Fossil Fools!
{"Mythbusters" is a science show on both the Science and Discovery
Channels.
For more information please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters
}
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_MythBusters_special_episodes#Spe...
CONFIRMED:
Greenhouse gases increase the amount of heat absorbed by air.
This was a very tightly controlled experiment
performed on a large scale and monitored
by the very best equipment. Those in doubt
should view the DVD.
They've have many very biased "mythbusting" episodes. The one on the
nutrition in cereal was ridiculous. And apparently the one you
reference as well. |
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| James |
| Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:02 am |
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E.A. wrote:
Quote: On Jul 29, 12:40 pm, Roger Coppock <rcopp...@adnc.com> wrote:
TV's Mythbusters are no Fossil Fools!
{"Mythbusters" is a science show on both the Science and Discovery
Channels.
For more information please see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters
}
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_MythBusters_special_episodes#Spe...
CONFIRMED:
Greenhouse gases increase the amount of heat absorbed by air.
This was a very tightly controlled experiment
performed on a large scale and monitored
by the very best equipment. Those in doubt
should view the DVD.
That's a critical point to highlight. The mechanism by which CO2 traps
heat, and the small amounts required to do so (see my post on covering
open car windows with thin plastic film) is poorly understood, and has
given the Creatard Right many avenues for deception.
The standard line is that .03% of the atmosphere can't possibly cause
it to warm. Yes it can! And that percentage keeps rising, of course.
Now, I'm sure someone will pan MythBusters as a "liberal front group."
So be it. Being called "liberal" in the scientific realm usually means
you've got evidence Creatards can't cope with.
Not a liberal front group. Just bad experiments. It's popular with the
comic book crowd and there are many of them in the AGW movement. |
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| z |
| Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:09 am |
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On Jul 30, 2:08 am, Peter Muehlbauer
<spamtrap...@AT.frankenexpress.de> wrote:
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The Earth is an airtight container? No.
uhoh.... we're going to run out of air. |
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