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| Richard the Dreaded Liber |
Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:14 pm |
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On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:04:19 -0400, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Quote: Bill Sloman wrote:
Linus Pauling was that kind of professor - he almost solved a number
of important problems, but his solutions were never 100% correct, nor
close enough to be all that useful.
It's sort of amusing, trying to insult someone by comparing him with a
two-time Nobel prize winner. ;)
I'd say more like pathetic.
Thanks,
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| Bill Sloman |
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:44 am |
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On Jul 23, 9:25 am, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
Quote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:26:10 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSensel...@electrooptical.net> wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:04:19 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSensel...@electrooptical.net> wrote:
Bill Slomanwrote:
On Jul 22, 8:55 am, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:14:58 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSensel...@electrooptical.net> wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:37:14 -0600, "WW" <c...@nospambresnan.net
wrote:
"Paul Hovnanian P.E." <p...@hovnanian.com> wrote in message
news:4A662A31.C5F2F600@hovnanian.com...
john wrote:
Hi,
This group is for elecronics related posting. Why the moderator allows
irrevalent posting? This madness nonsense should be stopped.
John
We had the last moderator shot so now nobody wants the job.
Are you volunteering?
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Paul Hovnanian mailto:P...@Hovnanian.com
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Ban the bomb. Save the world for conventional warfare.
Paul... Just curious, how does a moderator handle these problems? Warren
SED isn't a moderated group. If it were, all post requests must pass
thru a moderator who approves, or declines to post the message.
If everyone agrees, I can be moderator... then there certainly won't
be anymore leftist weenie problems
...Jim Thompson
To be a moderator, you have to start out being moderate. I nominate
Woodgate.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
That'd work. I note that he's still alive and well on the LTspice
forum.
The problem here is that rarely does anyone post anything that's truly
a circuit QUESTION. And I certainly don't feel compelled to dump
circuits out here, playing professor, but which no one will
understand.
My encounters with Jim Thompson's circuits (long before I knew he
existed) filled me with a desire to use other people's implementations
of the same ideas - the MC4024 and MC4044 made me an enthusiast for
the 4046, while the MC1495 and MC1496 made me a life-long fan of Barry
Gilbert's analog multipliers.
Linus Pauling was that kind of professor - he almost solved a number
of important problems, but his solutions were never 100% correct, nor
close enough to be all that useful.
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Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
It's sort of amusing, trying to insult someone by comparing him with a
two-time Nobel prize winner. ;)
I used to really like the MC4044 and the MC1648. The 4046 has that
nasty deadband right where it wants to servo, which is a really dumb
design...I always have to pull it off to one side a bit with a resistor
to avoid the resulting horrid phase noise. The 4044 doesn't have the
problem. The CD4046 did have that nice wide range RC oscillator that
they spoiled in the HC version.
The MC1648 shows that you can actually make a nice quiet oscillator with
nasty old 1960s ECL transistors. I used them for VCOs in my scanning
laser microscope when I was a grad student.
And I've used the 1496 all over the place. It works best with a single
cap across the output pins, and a switched-capacitor gizmo to transfer
that voltage down to ground. Brilliantly useful gizmo, much much faster
and much quieter than e.g. the AD632 although without the same DC
accuracy. (It also costs 25 cents.)
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
Slowman is so-o-o-o appallingly ignorant...
MC4024 = Voltage-Controlled-Multivibrator
MC4044 = (Digital) PFD
MC1648 = Tank Type VCO (Analog)
MC1494-1496 = Analog MULTIPLIERS, which can be used as phase detectors
I'm always pleased to note that I'm the highest standard for Slowman's
disdain, but please don't feed the jerk. Let him die that most
unpleasant of deaths... alone ;-)
...Jim Thompson
I wasn't defending _you_, Jim--but some of those chips are friends of
mine. ;)
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
Of course, I've done good work all my life
And very generously left room for others to do better..
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| Boris Mohar |
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:22 am |
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On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:14:58 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
Quote: Jim Thompson wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:37:14 -0600, "WW" <ccco@nospambresnan.net
wrote:
"Paul Hovnanian P.E." <paul@hovnanian.com> wrote in message
news:4A662A31.C5F2F600@hovnanian.com...
john wrote:
Hi,
This group is for elecronics related posting. Why the moderator allows
irrevalent posting? This madness nonsense should be stopped.
John
We had the last moderator shot so now nobody wants the job.
Are you volunteering?
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Paul Hovnanian mailto:Paul@Hovnanian.com
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Ban the bomb. Save the world for conventional warfare.
Paul... Just curious, how does a moderator handle these problems? Warren
SED isn't a moderated group. If it were, all post requests must pass
thru a moderator who approves, or declines to post the message.
If everyone agrees, I can be moderator... then there certainly won't
be anymore leftist weenie problems ;-)
...Jim Thompson
To be a moderator, you have to start out being moderate. I nominate
Woodgate.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
Moderation in moderation but too excessive.
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| Bill Sloman |
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:46 am |
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On Jul 24, 3:48 am, Richard the Dreaded Libertarian
<freedom_...@example.net> wrote:
Quote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:04:19 -0400, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Bill Sloman wrote:
Linus Pauling was that kind of professor - he almost solved a number
of important problems, but his solutions were never 100% correct, nor
close enough to be all that useful.
It's sort of amusing, trying to insult someone by comparing him with a
two-time Nobel prize winner. ;)
I'd say more like pathetic.
If my intention had been to insult Jim, it would have been a pathetic
- since I was merely spelling out how Jim falls short of his
aspirations,it was simply descriptive. Jim is a competent journeyman
circuit designer, not a master like Barry Gilbert or Bob Widlar, and
not close enough to having mastered his craft be able to realise this.
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| Jim Thompson |
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:57 pm |
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On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:59:30 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
<zapwireDASHgroups@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: "Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message
news:b2cc0b73-ab5e-466b-99c1-88c12d08c05f@k13g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
"Jim is a competent journeyman
circuit designer, not a master like Barry Gilbert or Bob Widlar, and
not close enough to having mastered his craft be able to realise this."
Just curious, would you describe yourself as a journeyman circuit designer, a
master, or something else?
:-)
One has to be curious why a
queer-fairy-live-off-your-wife-piece-a-scum like Slowman has to spend
so much of his time slamming my designs. I guess he's mentally dead
and figures everyone his age should be ??
Also curious... wonder why, in August, 1986, Barrie (the correct
spelling was scheduled to speak at the Royal Melbourne Institute
of Technology (Melbourne, Australia), but was stricken ill... and I
was called on the replace him... taught bipolar analog techniques for
a week, alongside the famous Willy Sansen (University of Leuven,
Belgium) who taught the CMOS portion ?:-)
I'm always pleased to note that I'm the highest standard for Slowman's
disdain, but please don't feed the jerk. Let him die that most
unpleasant of deaths... alone ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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| Joel Koltner |
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:57 pm |
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"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message
news:b2cc0b73-ab5e-466b-99c1-88c12d08c05f@k13g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
"Jim is a competent journeyman
circuit designer, not a master like Barry Gilbert or Bob Widlar, and
not close enough to having mastered his craft be able to realise this."
Just curious, would you describe yourself as a journeyman circuit designer, a
master, or something else?
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| Michael A. Terrell |
Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 7:17 am |
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Joel Koltner wrote:
Quote:
"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message
news:b2cc0b73-ab5e-466b-99c1-88c12d08c05f@k13g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
"Jim is a competent journeyman
circuit designer, not a master like Barry Gilbert or Bob Widlar, and
not close enough to having mastered his craft be able to realise this."
Just curious, would you describe yourself as a journeyman circuit designer, a
master, or something else?
He's an Amateur 'Baiter'.
Its too bad that he's too damn old to trade in under the 'Cash for
Clunkers' program. He gets zero miles per gallon.
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| Bill Sloman |
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:06 am |
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On Jul 25, 3:15 am, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
Quote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:59:30 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
zapwireDASHgro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Bill Sloman" <bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote in message
news:b2cc0b73-ab5e-466b-99c1-88c12d08c05f@k13g2000prh.googlegroups.com....
"Jim is a competent journeyman
circuit designer, not a master like Barry Gilbert or Bob Widlar, and
not close enough to having mastered his craft be able to realise this."
Just curious, would you describe yourself as a journeyman circuit designer, a
master, or something else?
:-)
One has to be curious why a
queer-fairy-live-off-your-wife-piece-a-scum like Slowman has to spend
so much of his time slamming my designs. I guess he's mentally dead
and figures everyone his age should be ??
Jim Thompson reports me to the FBI as "dangerously anti-American" then
wonders why I take the trouble to be rude about his clumsy integrated
circuits? As I seem to have said before, he's a log way out of touch
with reality.
Quote: Also curious... wonder why, in August, 1986, Barrie (the correct
spelling  was scheduled to speak at the Royal Melbourne Institute
of Technology (Melbourne, Australia), but was stricken ill... and I
was called on the replace him... taught bipolar analog techniques for
a week, alongside the famous Willy Sansen (University of Leuven,
Belgium) who taught the CMOS portion ?
I did my Ph.D. in Melbourne - not at RMIT, which wasn't a university
back then - and I happen to know that RMIT still isn't up to much as
an academic institution. When Jim can't boasts about teaching a course
anywhere better, he's defining himself as third rate, if his
integrated circuits weren't already sufficient evidence.
Willy Sansen does seem to be for real - more than 400 papers in
referreed journals, but he's not Barrie Gilbert or Bob Widlar.
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| Bill Sloman |
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:07 am |
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On Jul 25, 2:59 am, "Joel Koltner" <zapwireDASHgro...@yahoo.com>
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Quote: "Bill Sloman" <bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote in message
news:b2cc0b73-ab5e-466b-99c1-88c12d08c05f@k13g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
"Jim is a competent journeyman
circuit designer, not a master like Barry Gilbert or Bob Widlar, and
not close enough to having mastered his craft be able to realise this."
Just curious, would you describe yourself as a journeyman circuit designer, a
master, or something else?
Something else. I do perfectly competent circuit design, but it is an
incidental skill - like vacuum-line glass blowing - that I've acquired
in order to solve problems with scientific instruments. In the places
that I've worked where there have been a bunch of circuit designers,
I've always been one of the better designers, rarely the best.
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| Jon Kirwan |
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:53 am |
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On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:06:26 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
Quote: snip
Jim Thompson reports me to the FBI as "dangerously anti-American"
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Not seriously, did he? You _are_ kidding about this, right?
Jon |
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| Tim Williams |
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:20 am |
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"Jon Kirwan" <jonk@infinitefactors.org> wrote in message
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Quote: snip
Jim Thompson reports me to the FBI as "dangerously anti-American"
snip
Not seriously, did he? You _are_ kidding about this, right?
That was indeed Jim's bragging, not Bill's.
Tim
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| Jim Thompson |
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:29 am |
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On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 00:20:28 -0500, "Tim Williams"
<tmoranwms@charter.net> wrote:
Quote: "Jon Kirwan" <jonk@infinitefactors.org> wrote in message
news:049q65l10pishjj1b0e1ijortkd9haddik@4ax.com...
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Jim Thompson reports me to the FBI as "dangerously anti-American"
snip
Not seriously, did he? You _are_ kidding about this, right?
That was indeed Jim's bragging, not Bill's.
Tim
Not bragging.
...Jim Thompson
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| Bill Sloman |
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:33 pm |
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On Jul 27, 1:53 pm, Jon Kirwan <j...@infinitefactors.org> wrote:
Quote: On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:06:26 -0700 (PDT),Bill Sloman
bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
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Jim Thompson reports me to the FBI as "dangerously anti-American"
snip
Not seriously, did he? You _are_ kidding about this, right?
Happily, I've only got Jim's word for it, but he seems to be convinced
that he did it.
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| John Devereux |
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:57 pm |
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Jon Kirwan <jonk@infinitefactors.org> writes:
Quote: On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:06:26 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman
bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
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Jim Thompson reports me to the FBI as "dangerously anti-American"
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Not seriously, did he? You _are_ kidding about this, right?
Jim posted that he did, convincingly IMO. (A contact he knew in the
local FBI field office IIRC?). It was quite a few years ago but I still
remember since I was shocked too at the time.
IMO it's bad both because of any possible real-world effect on Bill
(unlikely I guess), and because this sort of thing pollutes any FBI
"list" to the point of uselessness, perhaps allowing actual real bad
guys to slip through.
To me it's the same principle as the view that a false rape report is a
worse act than the actual reported crime, because a single instance
throws into doubt all the genuine ones...
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| Jim Thompson |
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:52 pm |
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On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:19:33 +0100, John Devereux
<john@devereux.me.uk> wrote:
Quote: Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> writes:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:57:55 +0100, John Devereux
john@devereux.me.uk> wrote:
Jon Kirwan <jonk@infinitefactors.org> writes:
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:06:26 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman
bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
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Jim Thompson reports me to the FBI as "dangerously anti-American"
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Not seriously, did he? You _are_ kidding about this, right?
Jim posted that he did, convincingly IMO. (A contact he knew in the
local FBI field office IIRC?). It was quite a few years ago but I still
remember since I was shocked too at the time.
IMO it's bad both because of any possible real-world effect on Bill
(unlikely I guess), and because this sort of thing pollutes any FBI
"list" to the point of uselessness, perhaps allowing actual real bad
guys to slip through.
To me it's the same principle as the view that a false rape report is a
worse act than the actual reported crime, because a single instance
throws into doubt all the genuine ones...
Slowman is anti-American, is he not? If we let him enter the US Obama
would give him unemployment benefits for life, and make him Minister
of Propaganda :-(
Surely people are not reported just for being "anti-american" (whatever
that is supposed to mean)? That's most of the world recently! You're
going to need a bigger list...
"*dangerously* anti-american" to me implies terrorism or some such, at
least in the context is being reported to the FBI. Of course I don't
know exactly what was said.
I suspect you would call everyone who voted Democrat "dangerously
anti-american" - I assume you are diligently working your way through
reporting them too?
I don't have to, they're already listed ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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