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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:56 am |
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| Joanne |
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 8:05 am |
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"Anonymous" <anonymous@anonymous.com> wrote in message
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Quote: Can a bird eat a roasted coffee bean ok?
Coffee contains caffeine and caffeine is not good for birds.
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| Anonymous |
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 8:36 am |
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"Alex Clayton" <alexx1400@yahoo.com> wrote :
Quote: "Anonymous" <anonymous@anonymous.com> wrote in message
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Can a bird eat a roasted coffee bean ok?
It's one of the things I have always been told to avoid, caffeine.
For you or the birds.
Trust me, if it's you, something else will get you before caffeine does. |
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| Alex Clayton |
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 8:36 am |
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"Anonymous" <anonymous@anonymous.com> wrote in message
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Quote: Can a bird eat a roasted coffee bean ok?
It's one of the things I have always been told to avoid, caffeine.
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Moderation is for monks."
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| GWB |
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 8:36 am |
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On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:06:47 -0500, Anonymous
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Quote: "Alex Clayton" <alexx1400@yahoo.com> wrote :
"Anonymous" <anonymous@anonymous.com> wrote in message
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Can a bird eat a roasted coffee bean ok?
It's one of the things I have always been told to avoid, caffeine.
For you or the birds.
Trust me, if it's you, something else will get you before caffeine does.
Life without coffee would be nearly as intolerable as life without
cigars. |
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| Alex Clayton |
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 8:36 am |
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"Anonymous" <anonymous@anonymous.com> wrote in message
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Quote: "Alex Clayton" <alexx1400@yahoo.com> wrote :
"Anonymous" <anonymous@anonymous.com> wrote in message
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Can a bird eat a roasted coffee bean ok?
It's one of the things I have always been told to avoid, caffeine.
For you or the birds.
Trust me, if it's you, something else will get you before caffeine does.
LOL, no I mean the birds. The "experts" can't ever seem to make up their
mind on caffeine and humans. One day it's great, the next day it's bad. I
could care less what they say, I indulge in plenty of it daily. My Macaw
does try to get at my coffee all the time when he sees me drinking it. I
don't know if it's because he likes the smell or it's just that since I have
it, he wants it. I would suspect it's just he sees me with it. At times when
we are outside in the morning he can be VERY persistent in trying to grab at
the cup. <G>
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Without question, the greatest invention in the history of mankind is beer.
Oh, I grant you that the wheel was also a fine invention, but the wheel does
not go nearly as well with pizza.
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| Jangchub |
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 8:47 pm |
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On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:20:26 -0700, "Alex Clayton"
<alexx1400@yahoo.com> wrote:
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LOL, no I mean the birds. The "experts" can't ever seem to make up their
mind on caffeine and humans. One day it's great, the next day it's bad. I
could care less what they say, I indulge in plenty of it daily. My Macaw
does try to get at my coffee all the time when he sees me drinking it. I
don't know if it's because he likes the smell or it's just that since I have
it, he wants it. I would suspect it's just he sees me with it. At times when
we are outside in the morning he can be VERY persistent in trying to grab at
the cup. <G
My Macaw does the same thing when I drink coffee. I stopped drinking
it a long time ago, but not for any reason other than the drugs I take
make it taste like crap.
I do put a little apple juice or guava nectar in a small paper cup and
she loves to lap at that. I don't do that too often. For some
reason, my particular bird can't have a lot of fruit or she gets the
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| Alex Clayton |
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:34 pm |
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"Jangchub" <sakadawa@kopan.com> wrote in message > My Macaw does the same
thing when I drink coffee. I stopped drinking
Quote: it a long time ago, but not for any reason other than the drugs I take
make it taste like crap.
I do put a little apple juice or guava nectar in a small paper cup and
she loves to lap at that. I don't do that too often. For some
reason, my particular bird can't have a lot of fruit or she gets the
runs.
I think with most all pet birds they want what they see us eat or drink.
They figure if we are having it, it's got to be good. If I hand the Macaw a
piece of banana he will take a bite and drop it. If I stand there and eat it
and keep offering him some, he will eat as long as I do. Like kids <G>
The fruit juice does the same thing with him. He LOVES any kind of juice,
and will get very runny droppings for a little bit but I assume it's just
because there's not much too it so most of it just passes through pretty
quick.
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"Little girls like butterflies, need no excuse".
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| Louis Boyd |
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:44 pm |
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Alex Clayton wrote:
Quote: "Anonymous" <anonymous@anonymous.com> wrote in message
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"Alex Clayton" <alexx1400@yahoo.com> wrote :
"Anonymous" <anonymous@anonymous.com> wrote in message
news:qZqdnbFScPaO_6TYnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@forethought.net...
Can a bird eat a roasted coffee bean ok?
It's one of the things I have always been told to avoid, caffeine.
For you or the birds.
Trust me, if it's you, something else will get you before caffeine does.
LOL, no I mean the birds. The "experts" can't ever seem to make up their
mind on caffeine and humans. One day it's great, the next day it's bad. I
could care less what they say, I indulge in plenty of it daily. My Macaw
does try to get at my coffee all the time when he sees me drinking it. I
don't know if it's because he likes the smell or it's just that since I have
it, he wants it. I would suspect it's just he sees me with it. At times when
we are outside in the morning he can be VERY persistent in trying to grab at
the cup. <G
I brought home a 2 kilo bag of Combate (a popular brand of Mexican
roasted coffee) and foolishly left it on the dining table. My B&G
macaws (probably the male) ripped open the bag and spread it all over
the table and floor. Some beans where "crunched", obviously by them
biting the beans. That got them a day of cage time but no other
apparent ill effects. I tried offering them each a bean the next day.
In both cases they took it but on tasting it dropped it. My conclusion
is that roast coffee beans aren't poisonous, they aren't particularly
good tasting to a bird, and (like just about everything else) they need
to be kept away from the birds just because they're curious and like to
play with them. Had that been a bag of almonds most would have been
shelled and some eaten.
As to liquid coffee, my macaws want to try >anything< I happen to be
drinking. They don't care for coffee. Any kind of fruit juice they
insist on sharing. Saying no to a pair of macaws perched on each
shoulder isn't wise.
A more likely thing for them to drink which contains caffeine are
various type of soft drinks. They're sweet like juices. I don't bring
those home after the make opened a can. He didn't pull the tab, just
bit hole in the can. He enjoyed the cold shower but didn't drink much.
What a mess! |
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| Jangchub |
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 12:35 am |
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On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 08:34:00 -0700, "Alex Clayton"
<alexx1400@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: "Jangchub" <sakadawa@kopan.com> wrote in message > My Macaw does the same
thing when I drink coffee. I stopped drinking
it a long time ago, but not for any reason other than the drugs I take
make it taste like crap.
I do put a little apple juice or guava nectar in a small paper cup and
she loves to lap at that. I don't do that too often. For some
reason, my particular bird can't have a lot of fruit or she gets the
runs.
I think with most all pet birds they want what they see us eat or drink.
They figure if we are having it, it's got to be good. If I hand the Macaw a
piece of banana he will take a bite and drop it. If I stand there and eat it
and keep offering him some, he will eat as long as I do. Like kids <G
The fruit juice does the same thing with him. He LOVES any kind of juice,
and will get very runny droppings for a little bit but I assume it's just
because there's not much too it so most of it just passes through pretty
quick.
I don't recall where I read this, but it may have been in "The Well
Behaved Parrot" that, pet birds, especially parrots must take part in
flock eating, feeding one another, etc. Since we are her flock if we
are eating something which is okay for her to eat I let her eat off my
plate. It's not enough for me to give some to her. She must eat it
directly from where I am eating from.
If it's something she shouldn't be eating, like my husbands steak or
chicken I put some of HER food on his or my plate and she is just as
happy. So I think it's not only she likes our food, but she has the
need to feed us and us feed her. Make sense? |
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| Joanne |
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 1:44 am |
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"Jangchub" <sakadawa@kopan.com> wrote in message
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Quote: If it's something she shouldn't be eating, like my husbands steak or
chicken I put some of HER food on his or my plate and she is just as
happy. So I think it's not only she likes our food, but she has the
need to feed us and us feed her. Make sense?
Why should she not be eating steak and chicken?
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Joanne
If it's right for you, then it's right, . . . . . for you!!!
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| Phil D. |
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 2:16 am |
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On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:44:19 GMT, "Joanne" <Joanne@jobirdnest.com>
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"Jangchub" <sakadawa@kopan.com> wrote in message
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If it's something she shouldn't be eating, like my husbands steak or
chicken I put some of HER food on his or my plate and she is just as
happy. So I think it's not only she likes our food, but she has the
need to feed us and us feed her. Make sense?
Why should she not be eating steak and chicken?
Yeah - I give Sid chicken drumsticks on occasion. Holding it in his
claw, he gnaws the meat off, then cracks the bone to get at the
marrow.
Going off on a tangent, I once ate a lamb curry cooked by a Sri Lankan
friend of mine and was surprised to find it filled with bones. He gave
me one of those "what?" looks as he snapped one of them and started
sucking the marrow out. |
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 2:19 am |
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On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 17:35:44 GMT, Jangchub <sakadawa@kopan.com> wrote:
Quote: On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 08:34:00 -0700, "Alex Clayton"
alexx1400@yahoo.com> wrote:
If it's something she shouldn't be eating, like my husbands steak or
chicken I put some of HER food on his or my plate and she is just as
happy. So I think it's not only she likes our food, but she has the
need to feed us and us feed her. Make sense?
Why shouldn't she be eating chicken? |
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| Phil D. |
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 2:31 am |
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On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 08:44:54 -0700, Louis Boyd
<boyd@apt0.sao.arizona.edu> wrote:
Quote: I brought home a 2 kilo bag of Combate (a popular brand of Mexican
roasted coffee) and foolishly left it on the dining table. My B&G
macaws (probably the male) ripped open the bag and spread it all over
the table and floor. Some beans where "crunched", obviously by them
biting the beans. That got them a day of cage time but no other
apparent ill effects. I tried offering them each a bean the next day.
In both cases they took it but on tasting it dropped it. My conclusion
is that roast coffee beans aren't poisonous, they aren't particularly
good tasting to a bird, and (like just about everything else) they need
to be kept away from the birds just because they're curious and like to
play with them. Had that been a bag of almonds most would have been
shelled and some eaten.
As to liquid coffee, my macaws want to try >anything< I happen to be
drinking. They don't care for coffee. Any kind of fruit juice they
insist on sharing. Saying no to a pair of macaws perched on each
shoulder isn't wise.
A more likely thing for them to drink which contains caffeine are
various type of soft drinks. They're sweet like juices. I don't bring
those home after the make opened a can. He didn't pull the tab, just
bit hole in the can. He enjoyed the cold shower but didn't drink much.
What a mess!
The conventional wisdom dictates that you should never let your bird
drink alcohol. My bird (of course) always wants to drink my beer if
I'm having some. Is it *really* actually dangerous to let him have a
small sip to satisfy his curiosity? I have memories of my grandma
letting her budgies sip her brandy and drink her Guinness on a regular
basis - and it never seemed to cause them any harm. After all, birds
do encounter alcohol in nature (in the form of fermenting fruit). Not
talking about deliberately getting my bird drunk here - just a taste.
Drunk birds - there was a pub I used to go into years ago that had an
African grey parrot that was sometimes loose in the bar area in the
afternoons. He would go from table to table, trying to sip people's
drinks (his favourite was cider) when they weren't looking. There was
a big sign above his cage saying "Please do not offer drinks to this
bird". The barmaid was telling me that birdie would sometimes get
completely ratted because people were holding pints of booze up to the
cage (presumably because the bird started up with those 'I want some'
looks) and end up crashed out on the bottom of the cage. |
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| Jangchub |
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 2:54 am |
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On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:44:19 GMT, "Joanne" <Joanne@jobirdnest.com>
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"Jangchub" <sakadawa@kopan.com> wrote in message
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If it's something she shouldn't be eating, like my husbands steak or
chicken I put some of HER food on his or my plate and she is just as
happy. So I think it's not only she likes our food, but she has the
need to feed us and us feed her. Make sense?
Why should she not be eating steak and chicken?
Because she is a vegetarian, not a carnivore or omnivore. Macaws in
the wild don't eat meat, carion or animals. |
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| Bob |
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:07 am |
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On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 19:31:57 GMT, Phil D. <no-one@home.here> wrote:
Quote: Drunk birds - there was a pub I used to go into years ago that had an
African grey parrot that was sometimes loose in the bar area in the
afternoons. He would go from table to table, trying to sip people's
drinks (his favourite was cider) when they weren't looking. There was
a big sign above his cage saying "Please do not offer drinks to this
bird". The barmaid was telling me that birdie would sometimes get
completely ratted because people were holding pints of booze up to the
cage (presumably because the bird started up with those 'I want some'
looks) and end up crashed out on the bottom of the cage.
We have several large pear trees on our lot. Apparently, wasps sting
the fruit which starts the fermentation process and causes the fruit
to drop prematurely. If I don't keep the damaged fruit picked up, it
becomes the "local pub" for resident Jays and Robins. It's not
unusual to see a dozen or so birds blotto under the pear tree when
I've been lax in picking up the rotting fruit. On a couple of
occassions, they've been so blotto that they are laying on the ground
when it starts raining. I've gone out and collected the birds in a
box and brought them into the garage until they were sober enough to
fly -- to try to prevent them becoming hypothermic or food for the
local feral cats. While I don't argue that it is good for them, they
certainly seem to seek out this opportunity, even though there is
other non-fermented food readily available.
Bob |
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| Wheeler |
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:21 am |
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Macaws and other parrots eat more meat than you think, in the wild that is.
:0)
Bob W
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Quote: On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:44:19 GMT, "Joanne" <Joanne@jobirdnest.com
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"Jangchub" <sakadawa@kopan.com> wrote in message
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If it's something she shouldn't be eating, like my husbands steak or
chicken I put some of HER food on his or my plate and she is just as
happy. So I think it's not only she likes our food, but she has the
need to feed us and us feed her. Make sense?
Why should she not be eating steak and chicken?
Because she is a vegetarian, not a carnivore or omnivore. Macaws in
the wild don't eat meat, carion or animals. |
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:43 am |
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On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 19:54:15 GMT, Jangchub <sakadawa@kopan.com> wrote:
Quote: On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:44:19 GMT, "Joanne" <Joanne@jobirdnest.com
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"Jangchub" <sakadawa@kopan.com> wrote in message
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If it's something she shouldn't be eating, like my husbands steak or
chicken I put some of HER food on his or my plate and she is just as
happy. So I think it's not only she likes our food, but she has the
need to feed us and us feed her. Make sense?
Why should she not be eating steak and chicken?
Because she is a vegetarian, not a carnivore or omnivore. Macaws in
the wild don't eat meat, carion or animals.
You mean like your statement that they don't eat bananas? |
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| Alan Williams |
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:08 am |
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Jangchub wrote:
Quote: On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:44:19 GMT, "Joanne" <Joanne@jobirdnest.com
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"Jangchub" <sakadawa@kopan.com> wrote in message
news:5bmkj2djetc4ib3htj6ifijt8ic5ebdhsu@4ax.com...
If it's something she shouldn't be eating, like my husbands steak or
chicken I put some of HER food on his or my plate and she is just as
happy. So I think it's not only she likes our food, but she has the
need to feed us and us feed her. Make sense?
Why should she not be eating steak and chicken?
Because she is a vegetarian, not a carnivore or omnivore. Macaws in
the wild don't eat meat, carion or animals.
Drivel. To quote <http://www.sandiegozoo.org/animalbytes/t-macaw.html>
Macaws eat a variety of ripe and unripe fruits, nuts and seeds, flowers,
leaves, and stems of plants, and sources of protein like insects and snails.
Last time I checked "insects and snails" counted as animals.
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| Phil D. |
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:50 am |
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On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 01:08:09 +0100, Alan Williams <nospam@zen.co.uk>
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Quote: Jangchub wrote:
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:44:19 GMT, "Joanne" <Joanne@jobirdnest.com
wrote:
"Jangchub" <sakadawa@kopan.com> wrote in message
news:5bmkj2djetc4ib3htj6ifijt8ic5ebdhsu@4ax.com...
If it's something she shouldn't be eating, like my husbands steak or
chicken I put some of HER food on his or my plate and she is just as
happy. So I think it's not only she likes our food, but she has the
need to feed us and us feed her. Make sense?
Why should she not be eating steak and chicken?
Because she is a vegetarian, not a carnivore or omnivore. Macaws in
the wild don't eat meat, carion or animals.
Drivel. To quote <http://www.sandiegozoo.org/animalbytes/t-macaw.html
Macaws eat a variety of ripe and unripe fruits, nuts and seeds, flowers,
leaves, and stems of plants, and sources of protein like insects and snails.
Last time I checked "insects and snails" counted as animals.
Mine eats any bugs he can catch. He likes daddy-long-legses (UK flying
version) in particular. |
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