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| Carl Rogers |
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:52 pm |
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Hi Viatologists,
The United States is not the centre of the universe... It's just a
part of it. The Worldwide Transportation Library (WWTL) reflects that
fact and is proud to demonstrate photographs and videos of
international roads.
That all said, you shouldn't be surprised that our visitors come from
all walks of life! The United States does not account for the
majority any longer. Thanks goodness too! In the first two days of
July, 64% of our hits have come from the United Kingdom, France, and
Germany. (Thank you, merci & danke.)
U.S. traffic only accounts for 6% of this month's 4,174 hits. I've
never been more pleased because this demonstrates an 'evenly-
distributed' global interest in viatology. Keep in mind, the USA only
accounts for 4.4% of the world's population.
Long in short... As you're presenting information on roads to the
public, don't forget that you have a global audience that's interested
in what the world--not just your country--has to offer.
For the world's largest sampling of road videos and photographs, visit
http://wwtl.info .
Joyeux fête du Canada.
Happy Fourth of July,
Joyeux fête national française.
Carl Rogers
"Environment first, transportology second"
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Worldwide Transportation Library (WWTL):
http://wwtl.info
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Complete coverage of international roads and railways.
Since 2000, we have offered several photographs, videos and
Virtual 360 captures -- to each viatologist & transportologist.
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| Wiper's Blade |
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:46 pm |
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On Jul 2, 12:52 pm, Carl Rogers <postmas...@wwtl.info> wrote:
Quote: Hi Viatologists,
The United States is not the centre of the universe... It's just a
part of it. The Worldwide Transportation Library (WWTL) reflects that
fact and is proud to demonstrate photographs and videos of
international roads.
That all said, you shouldn't be surprised that our visitors come from
all walks of life! The United States does not account for the
majority any longer. Thanks goodness too! In the first two days of
July, 64% of our hits have come from the United Kingdom, France, and
Germany. (Thank you, merci & danke.)
U.S. traffic only accounts for 6% of this month's 4,174 hits. I've
never been more pleased because this demonstrates an 'evenly-
distributed' global interest in viatology. Keep in mind, the USA only
accounts for 4.4% of the world's population.
Long in short... As you're presenting information on roads to the
public, don't forget that you have a global audience that's interested
in what the world--not just your country--has to offer.
For the world's largest sampling of road videos and photographs, visithttp://wwtl.info.
Joyeux fête du Canada.
Happy Fourth of July,
Joyeux fête national française.
Carl Rogers
"Environment first, transportology second"
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Worldwide Transportation Library (WWTL):http://wwtl.info
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Complete coverage of international roads and railways.
Since 2000, we have offered several photographs, videos and
Virtual 360 captures -- to each viatologist & transportologist.
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But Mr Rogers, you actively discriminate against the international
traveler! Whilst you call the U.S. route system "U.S. Federal Routes"
to aid the traveler from the other country, You continue to refer to
the American motorway system as the "Interstate" system! This is a
occidental term that should be deprecated by all those who take
internationalization seriously! Rather than engaging in the rampant
Americanism of the term "state" for a sub-national entity, You should
use the internationally accepted term and call the motorways the "U.S.
Interprovincial Route System". After all, elsewhere the term "state"
refers to a nation! Frankly, I'm appalled that you have not done so,
as it shows that deep down you're just another coldhearted American
who doesn't care about the rest of the world. For shame, Mr Rogers,
for shame. |
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| David Kaye |
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:51 pm |
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On Jul 2, 11:07 am, David Nebenzahl <nob...@but.us.chickens> wrote:
Quote: Indeed. Doesn't it register in his pea-brain that he *never* gets any
responses other than derision, condemnation and out-and-out insults?
Give it up!
Maybe he doesn't read the ng? |
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| Don Freeman |
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:55 pm |
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Carl Rogers wrote:
What an annoying little twit you are. |
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| David Kaye |
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:58 pm |
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On Jul 2, 12:37 pm, Don Freeman <freem...@cosmoslair.com> wrote:
Quote: You really thing that he would go to all the work of putting up and
maintaining that bullshit website, and then promoting it for all these
years so religiously, as a joke? That's a little hard to believe. For
what little it may be worth, my opinion is that he is a kook rather then
a troll.
While most of us see no value in what he's doing, think about other
buffs such as train buffs and people who are into the ins and outs of
public transit. Think of the fairly well-selling book, "The People's
Railway" by Perles, all about the Muni.
http://www.amazon.com/Peoples-Railway-History-Municipal-Francisco/dp/0916374424
I mean, talk about arcane! It's funny about "The People's Railway".
I'd read it and sold it to a bookstore. Years later I wanted to find
it again but couldn't. As a birthday gift my girlfriend at the time
tracked it down. She said she had put in requests with 5 different
bookstores to track it down for her. People tend to keep this kind of
book.
There may come a day when there is an interest in freeways. If so,
then Carl has a handle on it.
Also, I'm not exactly displeased with the term "viatologist", though
I'd think "viaphile" or the horrendous "viaphiliac" might be more
appropriate. But that's me.... |
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| David Nebenzahl |
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:07 pm |
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On 7/2/2009 10:55 AM Don Freeman spake thus:
Quote: Carl Rogers wrote:
Hi Viatologists,
What an annoying little twit you are.
Indeed. Doesn't it register in his pea-brain that he *never* gets any
responses other than derision, condemnation and out-and-out insults?
Give it up!
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| Steve Firth |
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:12 pm |
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Carl Rogers <postmaster@wwtl.info> wrote:
Fuck off, delivery boy. |
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| Larry Sheldon |
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:18 pm |
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David Nebenzahl wrote:
Quote: On 7/2/2009 10:55 AM Don Freeman spake thus:
Carl Rogers wrote:
Hi Viatologists,
What an annoying little twit you are.
Indeed. Doesn't it register in his pea-brain that he *never* gets any
responses other than derision, condemnation and out-and-out insults?
Give it up!
All of that is "attention"
She craves attention.
She will die if you all deprive her of the attention she lives on.
You can give it up. She can''t.
("She"? Yes. I lived in the MES days too. The signs are clear.)
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of System Administrators:
Ex turpi causa non oritur actio Infallibility, and the ability to
learn from their mistakes.
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| Don Freeman |
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:46 pm |
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Larry Sheldon wrote:
Quote: David Nebenzahl wrote:
On 7/2/2009 10:55 AM Don Freeman spake thus:
Carl Rogers wrote:
Hi Viatologists,
What an annoying little twit you are.
Indeed. Doesn't it register in his pea-brain that he *never* gets any
responses other than derision, condemnation and out-and-out insults?
Give it up!
All of that is "attention"
She craves attention.
She will die if you all deprive her of the attention she lives on.
I don't think so, Carl does not fit the profile of a USENET troll.
Rather then feeding off the responses to his posts, he is oblivious to
them. He lives in his own little self-contained world and pays no
attention to any incursions into it. For, as far as he is concerned, no
one exists outside of it. |
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| Premier Bush |
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:15 pm |
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Don Freeman wrote:
Quote: Larry Sheldon wrote:
David Nebenzahl wrote:
On 7/2/2009 10:55 AM Don Freeman spake thus:
Carl Rogers wrote:
Hi Viatologists,
What an annoying little twit you are.
Indeed. Doesn't it register in his pea-brain that he *never* gets
any responses other than derision, condemnation and out-and-out
insults? Give it up!
All of that is "attention"
She craves attention.
She will die if you all deprive her of the attention she lives on.
I don't think so, Carl does not fit the profile of a USENET troll.
Rather then feeding off the responses to his posts, he is oblivious to
them. He lives in his own little self-contained world and pays no
attention to any incursions into it. For, as far as he is concerned,
no one exists outside of it.
How do you know he doesn't feed of the responses? Just because he doesn't
reply doesn't mean he's not having a laugh at your expense. |
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| Larry Sheldon |
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:18 pm |
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Don Freeman wrote:
Quote: Larry Sheldon wrote:
David Nebenzahl wrote:
On 7/2/2009 10:55 AM Don Freeman spake thus:
Carl Rogers wrote:
Hi Viatologists,
What an annoying little twit you are.
Indeed. Doesn't it register in his pea-brain that he *never* gets any
responses other than derision, condemnation and out-and-out insults?
Give it up!
All of that is "attention"
She craves attention.
She will die if you all deprive her of the attention she lives on.
I don't think so, Carl does not fit the profile of a USENET troll.
Rather then feeding off the responses to his posts, he is oblivious to
them. He lives in his own little self-contained world and pays no
attention to any incursions into it. For, as far as he is concerned, no
one exists outside of it.
Which, if correct, means response to her are an even more gratuitous
waste of filter-space than I thought.
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of System Administrators:
Ex turpi causa non oritur actio Infallibility, and the ability to
learn from their mistakes.
Eppure si rinfresca
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| Don Freeman |
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:37 pm |
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Premier Bush wrote:
Quote: Don Freeman wrote:
Larry Sheldon wrote:
David Nebenzahl wrote:
On 7/2/2009 10:55 AM Don Freeman spake thus:
Carl Rogers wrote:
Hi Viatologists,
What an annoying little twit you are.
Indeed. Doesn't it register in his pea-brain that he *never* gets
any responses other than derision, condemnation and out-and-out
insults? Give it up!
All of that is "attention"
She craves attention.
She will die if you all deprive her of the attention she lives on.
I don't think so, Carl does not fit the profile of a USENET troll.
Rather then feeding off the responses to his posts, he is oblivious to
them. He lives in his own little self-contained world and pays no
attention to any incursions into it. For, as far as he is concerned,
no one exists outside of it.
How do you know he doesn't feed of the responses? Just because he doesn't
reply doesn't mean he's not having a laugh at your expense.
You really thing that he would go to all the work of putting up and
maintaining that bullshit website, and then promoting it for all these
years so religiously, as a joke? That's a little hard to believe. For
what little it may be worth, my opinion is that he is a kook rather then
a troll. Even if his actions were intended as a put-on, his subsequent
adherence to them (and his made up terminology) pushes him over the line
into out-and-out kookdom. |
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| Steve Riner |
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:21 am |
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On Jul 2, 3:58 pm, David Kaye <sfdavidka...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: On Jul 2, 12:37 pm, Don Freeman <freem...@cosmoslair.com> wrote:
There may come a day when there is an interest in freeways. If so,
then Carl has a handle on it.
You know, there are many of us, much less skilled at --- or needy for
--- self-promotion, who have been providing information for those with
an "interest in freeways" (and many lesser roads) far longer and in
greater depth than the subject of this thread.
Steve Riner
Pueblo West CO
Explore New Mexico and Minnesota highways: http://www.steve-riner.com |
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| Larry Sheldon |
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:52 am |
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Steve Riner wrote:
Quote: You know, there are many of us, much less skilled at --- or needy for
--- self-promotion, who have been providing information for those with
an "interest in freeways" (and many lesser roads) far longer and in
greater depth than the subject of this thread.
No kidding!
And certainly without the gratuitous rudeness and filth.
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Requiescas in pace o email Two identifying characteristics
of System Administrators:
Ex turpi causa non oritur actio Infallibility, and the ability to
learn from their mistakes.
Eppure si rinfresca
ICBM Targeting Information:
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| David Kaye |
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:10 am |
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On Jul 2, 8:11 pm, Otto Yamamoto <ros...@yamamoto.cc> wrote:
Quote: Not to mention providing a significantly better quality of information.
Well, true. His videos do absolutely nothing for me. As someone who
is fascinated by old roads, both abandoned ones and those which exist
today but have historic roots, I am interested in things like freeways
that may have been laid out on old immigrant trails, etc.
Unfortunately, Carl does absolutely nothing useful here. |
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| Otto Yamamoto |
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:11 am |
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On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:52:32 -0500
Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: Steve Riner wrote:
You know, there are many of us, much less skilled at --- or needy for
--- self-promotion, who have been providing information for those with
an "interest in freeways" (and many lesser roads) far longer and in
greater depth than the subject of this thread.
No kidding!
And certainly without the gratuitous rudeness and filth.
Not to mention providing a significantly better quality of information.
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Otto Yamamoto ECHM |
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| Steve Firth |
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:38 pm |
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Otto Yamamoto <roscoe@yamamoto.cc> wrote:
Quote: He's sung an ode to a shrubbery; and once when Eric Bryant did a parody of
one of his night-time videos, olde Cal 'corrected' it and posted the
'correction' for a short time until he realised that he'd made a fool of
himself(one of the rare instances of that). He decides what highways
should be called, usually contrary to convention: Calling US Highways
'Federal Routes' and so on.
He also self-declares as an expert in English, French, German and
Italian. This is somewhat surprising, I speak three of those languages
and have seen Mr Rogers attempts to communicate in those languages.
Umm... now call me daft but his attempts read like someone put the
English text into Babelfish then cut and paste the crap that came out.
On the two videos that I have seen of him trying to speak a foreign
language his skills have been about on a par with the average British
tourist - misprnounce every word, use the wrong tense and shout then
revert to bad English.
He also puffs himself up as a professional transport photographer then
produces not only photographs that are amazing only from the point of
view of dullness of subject matter, lack of comprehension of how to
frame a subject or even a basic grip of how to light a subject but also
for the fact that he can't even seem to master basic exposure control on
a (presumably) automatic camera.
His self-belief is quite amazing.
His actual talent almost non-existent. |
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| Otto Yamamoto |
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:38 pm |
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On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 00:10:44 -0700 (PDT)
David Kaye <sfdavidkaye2@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: Well, true. His videos do absolutely nothing for me. As someone who
is fascinated by old roads, both abandoned ones and those which exist
today but have historic roots, I am interested in things like freeways
that may have been laid out on old immigrant trails, etc.
Unfortunately, Carl does absolutely nothing useful here.
It's worse than 'nothing useful'. CalBog posts a picture of CA 163.
Rather than, say putting up a snap or two of the 1948 vintage section;
which is the most interesting, he puts up a snap of a street corner
in Kearney Mesa. He puts up a snap of 'CA 274'-as if it were a current
highway; not a route that was decommissioned at the turn of the century.
And there's more: He once claimed that US 60 was posted on the Pomona Freeway
near Diamond Bar. US 60 had long since been removed from CA at the time the
freeway opened; and was never posted on the Pomona Freeway, in any event.
He's sung an ode to a shrubbery; and once when Eric Bryant did a parody of
one of his night-time videos, olde Cal 'corrected' it and posted the 'correction'
for a short time until he realised that he'd made a fool of himself(one of the
rare instances of that). He decides what highways should be called, usually
contrary to convention: Calling US Highways 'Federal Routes' and so on.
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| Otto Yamamoto |
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 2:28 am |
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%steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:
Quote:
He also self-declares as an expert in English, French, German and
Italian. This is somewhat surprising, I speak three of those languages
and have seen Mr Rogers attempts to communicate in those languages.
Umm... now call me daft but his attempts read like someone put the
English text into Babelfish then cut and paste the crap that came out.
That's been speculated on; some believe that the poor translation is
actually his own-done without benefit of Babelfish.
Quote: On the two videos that I have seen of him trying to speak a foreign
language his skills have been about on a par with the average British
tourist - misprnounce every word, use the wrong tense and shout then
revert to bad English.
One language that he doesn't claim proficiency in, curiously, is Spanish. Given
the part of the country he's in, you think that he'd have some knowledge
of at least the local dialect. I had a fun little row with him over the name
of the California town: Los Banos, which he insisted meant 'the bathrooms' as
in the wc-which is the *modern* meaning of the expression(a shortening of 'cuarto
de bano'); obviously that's not the case, it means 'the baths'.
Quote: He also puffs himself up as a professional transport photographer then
produces not only photographs that are amazing only from the point of
view of dullness of subject matter, lack of comprehension of how to
frame a subject or even a basic grip of how to light a subject but also
for the fact that he can't even seem to master basic exposure control on
a (presumably) automatic camera.
His self-belief is quite amazing.
His actual talent almost non-existent.
There's a simple explanation for that: He's delusional.
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| David Nebenzahl |
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 3:05 am |
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On 7/3/2009 3:28 PM Otto Yamamoto spake thus:
Quote: One language that he doesn't claim proficiency in, curiously, is Spanish. Given
the part of the country he's in, you think that he'd have some knowledge
of at least the local dialect. I had a fun little row with him over the name
of the California town: Los Banos, which he insisted meant 'the bathrooms' as
in the wc-which is the *modern* meaning of the expression(a shortening of 'cuarto
de bano'); obviously that's not the case, it means 'the baths'.
That ("the bathrooms") has got to be the most dumbass gringo
interpretation of the name possible.
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