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Chuck Rhode
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:07 pm
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I left Sheboygan, WI, about 17:00 and was in my seat at the Brown
County Extension Office in Green Bay, WI, with two minutes to spare
before the 19:00 meeting was scheduled to start. Temps were in the
mid 50s on the way up. Coming back at 22:30 they were in the mid 40s.
I did have the forethought to put on my long-handled underwear and
pack a sweater. I drove through a cold front to get to the meeting,
and I got a little wet doing it, even though I went out of my way to
avoid showers hovering over the four-lane, so the outbound trip rolled
up 80 miles while the return leg was only 60. The land was
surprisingly rough as I ventured away from the Interstate, but I found
that road builders had invested extraordinary effort to make the
backroads run rectilinearly. The distance wasn't side to side but up
and down. As I came off the Niagara Escarpment at De Pere, WI, on CTH
W, I had a stunning view of the Fox River. The sun dipped below the
rain and lit the whole valley with a golden, soft-focus twilight.

A Fed named Roger and his sidekick Veejay conducted the tasting, with
running commentary by Mr Tony Demski who provided the apples. Demski
operates Maple Valley Orchard at Gillett (JILL-it), WI:

http://www.maplevalleyorchards.com/pages/home.aspx

There were about 30 people in the room. We tasted 18 varieties. I
have to tell you the names: Kandil Sinap, Bonnie Best, Champlain,
Muster, Norton's Melon, Morden 363, Morden 359, Niagara, Wedge,
Merton's Russet, Summer Treat, Liberty, Holstein, Golden Pearmain,
Fall Russet, Prairie Spy, P.R. John, and Sweet Sixteen. Some
varieties were known in colonial America. One was from Canada. A few
were recent results straight out of the laboratory. Most were
green/red, but a few were yellow or yellow/red. There were one or two
red ones and one true russet. All had light-colored flesh. Some were
sweet. A few were tart. A couple were spicy in a sort of pumpkin-pie
way. One I thought tasted like a pineapple — one a little like a
banana.

Sweet Sixteen was bizarre. It tasted a lot like hard candy because of
its licorice overtones, which I thought was fairly strange for an
apple. It would be interesting in a recipe that calls for apples
along with tarragon or anise, but I can't think of any.

--
... Chuck Rhode, Sheboygan, WI, USA
... 1979 Honda Goldwing GL1000 (Geraldine)
... Weather: http://LacusVeris.com/WX
... 50° — Wind N 12 mph
Andrew
Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:38 pm
Guest
Chuck Rhode wrote:
Quote:
I left Sheboygan, WI, about 17:00 and was in my seat at the Brown
County Extension Office in Green Bay, WI, with two minutes to spare
before the 19:00 meeting was scheduled to start. Temps were in the
mid 50s on the way up. Coming back at 22:30 they were in the mid 40s.
I did have the forethought to put on my long-handled underwear and
pack a sweater. I drove through a cold front to get to the meeting,
and I got a little wet doing it, even though I went out of my way to
avoid showers hovering over the four-lane, so the outbound trip rolled
up 80 miles while the return leg was only 60. The land was
surprisingly rough as I ventured away from the Interstate, but I found
that road builders had invested extraordinary effort to make the
backroads run rectilinearly. The distance wasn't side to side but up
and down. As I came off the Niagara Escarpment at De Pere, WI, on CTH
W, I had a stunning view of the Fox River. The sun dipped below the
rain and lit the whole valley with a golden, soft-focus twilight.

A Fed named Roger and his sidekick Veejay conducted the tasting, with
running commentary by Mr Tony Demski who provided the apples. Demski
operates Maple Valley Orchard at Gillett (JILL-it), WI:

http://www.maplevalleyorchards.com/pages/home.aspx

There were about 30 people in the room. We tasted 18 varieties. I
have to tell you the names: Kandil Sinap, Bonnie Best, Champlain,
Muster, Norton's Melon, Morden 363, Morden 359, Niagara, Wedge,
Merton's Russet, Summer Treat, Liberty, Holstein, Golden Pearmain,
Fall Russet, Prairie Spy, P.R. John, and Sweet Sixteen. Some
varieties were known in colonial America. One was from Canada. A few
were recent results straight out of the laboratory. Most were
green/red, but a few were yellow or yellow/red. There were one or two
red ones and one true russet. All had light-colored flesh. Some were
sweet. A few were tart. A couple were spicy in a sort of pumpkin-pie
way. One I thought tasted like a pineapple — one a little like a
banana.

Sweet Sixteen was bizarre. It tasted a lot like hard candy because of
its licorice overtones, which I thought was fairly strange for an
apple. It would be interesting in a recipe that calls for apples
along with tarragon or anise, but I can't think of any.



My fav is the Jongold apple.

--
Andrew
00 Daytona
00 Speed Triple
71 Kawi H1
05 Toddler
Chuck Rhode
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 3:16 am
Guest
Andrew wrote this on Thu, 28 Sep 2006 09:38:01 -0700. My reply is below.

Quote:
My fav is the Jongold apple.

Ah, I remember Jonathan apples. When I was in school, there was an
ancient bachelor named Claudio Martindale who lived on the outskirts
of Pine Village, IN. Because Pine Village was not so big a place, he
was fairly close to downtown, and he could get there in his pickup
without ever having really to learn how to drive. Of course, he grew
up driving horses, which meant he never saw the necessity of shifting
gears in a self-propelled vehicle. He controlled what speed he
thought he could manage by riding both the throttle and clutch in
first gear. He drove right past the school, and even the teachers
would snicker about being able to hear him going and coming. He went
through a lot of clutches (and mufflers). After he switched to
automatics, he went through a lot of transmissions because he still
wouldn't put the selector in "drive." He farmed. He raised apples.
He was middling well-to-do when he died in spite of the outlay for
truck repairs. It turned out that he had willed his land to the
county school system.

That was the end of his orchard, but I still recall Winesaps,
McIntoshes, and Grimes Goldens. I remember that their perfume
displaced the oxygen from within the little outbuilding where he
stored his crop in bushels. My folks wouldn't pay for apples he'd
picked, but we occasionally bought a peck of "falls" he had picked up.
Mom would painstakingly go through them, pealing and cutting away the
bruises before cooking them down for sauce. On our farm, pigs and
various kinds of poultry appreciated the parings that were left over.

.... too bad that Winesaps and Grimes Goldens won't grow here.
Jonathans might, but they probably would have to be brought in before
they were ripe. McIntosh is still a possibility, however.

I've heard of Jonogolds but never laid eyes on one. Here's what the
INVENTORY has to say:

"... a cross of Golden Delicious with Jonathan. Large fruit striped
red over bight yellow. Firm, cracking, juicy, slightly tart flesh.
Superb, rich, full flavor. Finest desert and eating quality; good
cooking properties. Will store in common refrigeration for three
months. Handsome, sturdy, vigorous, spreading tree; annually
productive. Triploid; requires a pollinator. Susceptible to scab and
mildew. Ripens from mid-September to late October depending on
location. Requires from 700-800 hours of chilling. Hardy in Zones
5-8. Currently the most planted variety in Europe. Developed at the
Geneva Station in New York. Introduced in 1968."

o Seed Savers Exchange, Inc. _Fruit, Berry and Nut Inventory_. Ed.
Kent Whealy. 3rd ed. Decorah, IA: Seed Savers Exchange, 2001.

.... so that's another that's just barely out of reach for my climate —
unless we're going to rely on Global Warming, going forward.

--
... Chuck Rhode, Sheboygan, WI, USA
... 1979 Honda Goldwing GL1000 (Geraldine)
... Weather: http://LacusVeris.com/WX
... 55° — Wind NW 10 mph — Sky mostly cloudy.
Chuck Rhode
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:40 am
Guest
Andrew wrote this on Thu, 28 Sep 2006 15:20:49 -0700. My reply is below.

Quote:
Let me know if you want me to send you a bag of em.

Don't you have to have a license for that?

--
... Chuck Rhode, Sheboygan, WI, USA
... 1979 Honda Goldwing GL1000 (Geraldine)
... Weather: http://LacusVeris.com/WX
... 41° — Wind Calm
Andrew
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:11 pm
Guest
Chuck Rhode wrote:
Quote:
Andrew wrote this on Thu, 28 Sep 2006 15:20:49 -0700. My reply is below.

Let me know if you want me to send you a bag of em.

Don't you have to have a license for that?


I looked, but my endorsement says all motorcycles. Nothing about Apples.

You might be right, to ship them I might need a license.

But....

http://www.fruitfromwashington.com/



--
Andrew
00 Daytona
00 Speed Triple
71 Kawi H1
05 Toddler
Chuck Rhode
Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:14 pm
Guest
Andrew wrote this on Fri, 29 Sep 2006 09:11:54 -0700. My reply is below.

Quote:
I looked, but my endorsement says all motorcycles. Nothing about Apples.

You might be right, to ship them I might need a license.

But....

http://www.fruitfromwashington.com/

Thanks, I'll watch for the Jonagold harvest. That's the trouble with
long season varieties, though: Here the season is already caput.

--
... Chuck Rhode, Sheboygan, WI, USA
... 1979 Honda Goldwing GL1000 (Geraldine)
... Weather: http://LacusVeris.com/WX
... 64° — Wind W 14 mph
 
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